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Post by The New Guy on Sept 6, 2008 18:15:38 GMT -5
sure, but it's a shame that the dems spent so much time and money on that spectacle and still got less viewers. wow, maybe they should've book better opening acts. i believe that is what drew 80% of those in attendance at mile high stadium.
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Post by Mink on Sept 6, 2008 20:38:09 GMT -5
sure, but it's a shame that the dems spent so much time and money on that spectacle and still got less viewers. wow, maybe they should've book better opening acts. i believe that is what drew 80% of those in attendance at mile high stadium. I heard there was equal amount of TV viewing per convention, but there were more in attendance at Mile High because it was open to the public and at no charge. Edited to add: What I saw everyday from the Dem convention were great speakers, some more than others, but Hillary did what she needed to do for the party, Bill is a very charismatic personality and also gave a good speech. Biden seemed a bit nervous, but I'm sure it's because he isn't used to being in the limelight, but rather sharing it with a body and Obama has attracted a crowd at every event for discussing issues and this one was the best. Most of all, from the Dems, it is what people were looking for. A reason to vote for them by addressing issues. What I saw from the Republican convention was heartfelt stories of a POW, who no doubt deserves credit and a woman who wants to be compared to a dog with lipstick. What about the issues? What reason, other than being Republican, would you vote for them? What do they stand for? |
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Sept 6, 2008 23:19:07 GMT -5
What I saw from the Republican convention was heartfelt stories of a POW, who no doubt deserves credit and a woman who wants to be compared to a dog with lipstick. I literally laughed out loud when I read this! Funny. ;D |
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Post by Mink on Sept 6, 2008 23:56:04 GMT -5
What I saw from the Republican convention was heartfelt stories of a POW, who no doubt deserves credit and a woman who wants to be compared to a dog with lipstick. I literally laughed out loud when I read this! Funny. ;D JMO, I'm glad I gave you a good laugh here.  (I didn't mean to be funny ) The scary part is that this person is running for VP!!!! Yikes  |
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 7, 2008 0:53:48 GMT -5
Yeah, shame she isn't a professional party hack with close to 36 years voting an anti-civil rights party line in the senate. Then she would be something to be proud of, right?
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Post by The New Guy on Sept 7, 2008 1:00:42 GMT -5
is it just me or does anyone else smell some jealousy in this room?
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Sept 7, 2008 1:20:56 GMT -5
is it just me or does anyone else smell some jealousy in this room? Huh? Itwas the visual of a dog with lipstick and wasn't it a Bull dog at that? It just struck me as funny. |
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Sept 7, 2008 1:37:35 GMT -5
See? It's not so cute after all! It's kinda funny... ;D
This video was created in 2007, so it is unrelated (and definitely creepy).
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Post by harpman1 on Sept 7, 2008 1:46:17 GMT -5
Good question your Minkness.
She stands for a huge number of humble, honest people that live their lives in a very conservative way.
They attend church, care for their elderly, serve their country, and raise their families in very traditional and unremarkable ways.
These folks are frustrated by interference from a massive government influence in their lives, infuriated at anointed know-it-alls that dictate how they should run their lives, and concerned that the simple proven values they treasure may be swept away by powers beyond their capacity to restrain.
They teach their kids as best they can, and still love & support them when they screw up.
They manage their budgets, and can't understand why Washington cannot.
They see in her a non-traditional politician with no pedigree or pretense.
The "issues" are addressed by applying one's fundamental values & training to the changing nature of said issues, and that is how contests such as this one are decided. Each ticket tells the electorate "where they're at" and who they are, and we pick.
The Cliff Notes Conservative, to which Gov. Palin appeals, wants lower taxes, less regulation of all kinds, a monumentally powerful and capable military that strikes fear into all that would imagine doing us harm, helps their neighbor when trouble & tough times arrive, and genuinely believes that America is the greatest nation in history because of their own hard work.
There are many millions that fit that general profile, and in a nation where, at best 50% even vote at all, the impact of a true D.C. outsider on the election is very much in question. If, in 1992 Ross Perot had been on either ticket, the winner would have exceeded 43%. Americans identify with underdogs at the local level, and root for mavericks at the national level.
Details? She'll drill, win, slash, & expose; enough kinds of oil, wars, spending & fraud to make for some long overdue "change" in D.C.(The District of Corruption).
This is supposed to be a citizen democracy. A representative republic in which common folks serve as soldiers and senators. The classless society of America has always been weary with, and wary of, lifetime politicians, and welcomed newcomers that sought to truly serve the people.
Actually, this interesting political phenomenon is nothing new. She is simply the latest example.
Hope that was helpful.
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Post by Mink on Sept 7, 2008 4:10:23 GMT -5
is it just me or does anyone else smell some jealousy in this room? None here either, just need more explanation and she did compare herself to a dog, or did I hear wrong?  |
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Post by Mink on Sept 7, 2008 4:18:56 GMT -5
Good question your Minkness. She stands for a huge number of humble, honest people that live their lives in a very conservative way. They attend church, care for their elderly, serve their country, and raise their families in very traditional and unremarkable ways. These folks are frustrated by interference from a massive government influence in their lives, infuriated at anointed know-it-alls that dictate how they should run their lives, and concerned that the simple proven values they treasure may be swept away by powers beyond their capacity to restrain. They teach their kids as best they can, and still love & support them when they screw up. They manage their budgets, and can't understand why Washington cannot. They see in her a non-traditional politician with no pedigree or pretense. The "issues" are addressed by applying one's fundamental values & training to the changing nature of said issues, and that is how contests such as this one are decided. Each ticket tells the electorate "where they're at" and who they are, and we pick. The Cliff Notes Conservative, to which Gov. Palin appeals, wants lower taxes, less regulation of all kinds, a monumentally powerful and capable military that strikes fear into all that would imagine doing us harm, helps their neighbor when trouble & tough times arrive, and genuinely believes that America is the greatest nation in history because of their own hard work. There are many millions that fit that general profile, and in a nation where, at best 50% even vote at all, the impact of a true D.C. outsider on the election is very much in question. If, in 1992 Ross Perot had been on either ticket, the winner would have exceeded 43%. Americans identify with underdogs at the local level, and root for mavericks at the national level. Details? She'll drill, win, slash, & expose; enough kinds of oil, wars, spending & fraud to make for some long overdue "change" in D.C.(The District of Corruption). This is supposed to be a citizen democracy. A representative republic in which common folks serve as soldiers and senators. The classless society of America has always been weary with, and wary of, lifetime politicians, and welcomed newcomers that sought to truly serve the people. Actually, this interesting political phenomenon is nothing new. She is simply the latest example. Hope that was helpful. Maybe I can help you: www.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/09/palin_v_reality.phpquote: REALITY: PALIN OPPOSED CRUCIAL EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE AND SENIORS FUNDING EDUCATION/CHILDREN Total: 396,000. Anchorage – Fire Lake Elementary School Replacement of Unsafe Sports Equipment. Palin vetoed $10,000. [FY08 Budget] Tanana City School District – Repair School Bus. Palin vetoed $36,000. [FY08 Budget] American Lung Association of Alaska – Asthma Control Program and Champ Camp. Palin voted $350,000. [FY08 Budget] HOSPITALS/HEALTH CARE Total: $4,527,500. Ketchikan General Hospital Surgical Suite Expansion/Relocation. Palin vetoed $4,400,000. [FY09 Budget] Ketchikan General Hospital – Replacement of Outdated Equipment. Palin vetoed $70,000. [2007 Legislature Supplemental] Sitka – Community Hospital – Medical Equipment. Palin vetoed $31,000. [2007 Legislature Supplemental] Kenai Peninsula Borough – Diagnostic Hospital Equipment. Palin vetoed $26,500. [2007 Legislature Supplemental] SENIORS Total: $600,000. Ketchikan Senior Citizens, Inc. – Access Road for Pioneer Heights. Palin vetoed $300,000. [FY08 Budget] AARP Ketchikan – Access Road for Ketchikan Senior Housing Project Palin vetoed $100,000. [2007 Legislature Supplemental] Catholic Community Services – Angoon Senior Center Stove, Refrigerator and Freezer. Palin vetoed $20,000 twice. [FY08 Budget, 2007 Legislature Supplemental] Alpha Omega Life Care, Inc. – Delivery Van and Moveable Building. Palin vetoed $20,000. [FY09 Budget] Older Persons Action Group – Senior Voice Equipment Upgrade. Palin vetoed $20,000. [FY09 Budget] Statewide Independent Living Centers – Assistive Technology for Alaska’s Centers for Independent Living. Palin vetoed $125,000. [FY09 Budget] Kodiak Senior Center – Facilities repair and Equipment. Palin vetoed $15,000. [2007 Legislature Supplemental] PALIN: “Before I became governor of the great state of Alaska, I was mayor of my hometown.” REALITY: UNDER PALIN, WASILLA GOVERNMENT SPENDING & DEBT SKYROCKETED. Total Government Expenditures Increased 63 Percent Under Palin. In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the total government expenditures of Wasilla, excluding capital outlays, were $7,046,325. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the budget—the expenditures were $4,317,947. The increase was 63 percent. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 1] ______________________________________________ Ok, maybe I was wrong.....she is experienced, but not the kind the country needs. |
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Post by harpman1 on Sept 7, 2008 9:45:53 GMT -5
Similar details of governance exist for every politician. BHO tapped into the same newness thing as Sarah. Thus his remarkable rise without much of a record. Newcomers are popular because they are new.
The Nov. question is, with which newcomer are more folks going to feel comfortable?
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(I didn't mean to be funny )
