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Post by Mink on Sept 7, 2008 21:15:39 GMT -5
Interesting take here. What I saw and heard from Thompson is, he appeared to be drunk. He slurred and hiccuped throughout his heartfelt story of a POW. Guiliani came across as insane. I do agree, Lieberman is boring. All in all, I wish they could have measured the decibel levels. It was enough to keep the dead, dead. Good god... in one post she says "no attacks" and then this tripe crosses her fingers. I am done with you Mink. Good bleeping bye. Big Dog, this wasn't an attack. This is what I got out of the Republican convention. From my standpoint, I am very leary of what this party has planned for the future of the country, post bush era. This was weak and they continue the lies and bashing, instead of addressing issues. |
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Post by bolverk on Sept 8, 2008 12:58:28 GMT -5
Scary. Lies. Deficit. Specifics. Recession. Agendas. Yes, I see a pattern. In the attacks on Gov. Palin. There is no attack. Questions, definitely. Accountability is in question too. That is not the way most Americans see it, only the extreme liberals. Most Americans see it as an attack by the Left Wing media, regardless of your opinion. NObama '08 |
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Post by bolverk on Sept 8, 2008 13:02:36 GMT -5
Here is link on her view/s of oil: newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/energywire/2008/08/sarah_palin_and_big_oil.htmlEnergy Wire talked to Gov. Sarah Palin in May about her views on Big Oil, offshore drilling and a long-awaited, expensive and controversial natural gas pipeline for which she has been pushing hard. With McCain's announcement Friday, suddenly her comments seem a lot more interesting. Many environmental and Democratic activists attacked her yesterday for being too close to Big Oil. They dislike her support for drilling in environmentally sensitive areas, her skepticism about alternative energy sources, and her opposition to listing polar bears as an endangered species. "Sarah Palin reinforces John McCain's plan to continue the Bush-Cheney big oil energy policies," said Daniel J. Weiss, senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. "Palin may be new, but her big oil energy agenda is very old-fashioned." Palin was initially unhappy with oil companies' proposed financial terms for building a gas pipeline. "Another condition that was unacceptable to me, unacceptable to Alaskans, that these companies were negotiating with the prior administration [was] to lock up [pipeline transit] rates for decades," said Palin. "There may need to be adjustments down the road. We can't bind or tie the hands of future legislators." Palin insisted that she stood a safe distance from BP and other major integrated firms. "I'm not anti-industry, I'm not anti-production. The oil company chief executives I respect are doing what the shareholders have mandated that CEO to do: look out for their bottom line. My bottom line for the state is to do the same for Alaska's shareholders. The people of Alaska own the resources. I have to look after their interests." Though her husband Todd works for BP, Palin said that, "BP is not my biggest fan." She said that the three big operators on the North Slope -- BP, Conoco Philips and Exxon Mobil - "had a sweet deal" with the prior Alaska state government when negotiating terms for the proposed natural gas line. She said she has changed those terms. "I want America's conditions to be met," she said. Palin acknowledged that a lot is at stake for Alaska when it comes to oil and gas. "About 85 percent of our state budget hinges on that oil production," Palin said. But she said that "with oil at $130 a barrrel, it is a two-edged sword," one "resulting in the family pocketbooks evaporating while state coffers fill up." ______________________________________________ Interesting! You forgot, or purposely omitted, the part where she took money from those coffers and paid it out to the people of Alaska to offset their increase in expenses related to energy consumption. Why is that? NObama '08 |
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Post by mrbose on Sept 8, 2008 13:08:16 GMT -5
Solidarity
There are three months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The person elected will be the president of "all" Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.
If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day.
If you support Barack Obama, please drive with your headlights off at night.
Together, we can make it happen! ;D
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Post by bolverk on Sept 8, 2008 13:09:36 GMT -5
You believe that because you are a narrow minded partisan. I'm looking at the bigger picture. If mccain/palin win and something happens to mccain (the odds are great there), she would be our president. That, in itself worries me and confirms the mccain's lack of judgement. Well, now this is not the real truth, based on what you wrote. Because there is plenty of evidence that she supports industry as a whole and wants them to act responsibly to the people of the state they get their oil from. So your point is nothing more then a personal opinion that carries no weight. The bigger picture is this. McCain picked a person who is acting responsibly for her constituents in Alaska. A proven track record. Obama picked a person who is representative of the old way of doing things. Joe Biden is the perfect definition of entrenched, old school politician. Obama is attempting to do the same thing he did with the political machine of Chicago. Win by being more of the same. Obama's definition of Change is nothing more then a change of parties in the White House. It is certainly not a change from the way things are done in Washington D.C. McCain and Palin, on the other hand, both have records of change. Which is why the left wing media, and you, are so vehement in your vitriolic attacks. Which, in the end may back fire. NObama '08 |
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Post by mrroqout on Sept 8, 2008 15:53:44 GMT -5
At this rate, the super power country is a lost cause, not to mention the laughing stock of the world (not that neocons care), but we simply can't afford to lose the status. How will we afford more of the same? I ALWAYS GET A GREAT CHUCKLE OUT OF THIS. Which countries are you referring to that are "laughing at us"..I've been around the world, a few times. I have 6-7 FULL Passports from EVERYWHERE. All we find city after city and country after country is love and respect. Where is this laughing? Sure a "FEW" random d*ckheads in a country here or there, mainly Canadians and Brits. Will begin to cluck, until they actually TALK to us...and then..we all share a pint. This the world is laughing BS is just that. |
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Post by harpman1 on Sept 8, 2008 16:01:49 GMT -5
What they mean is, Jean Francois Kerry laughs at the U.S.
"He is the world, he is the children..."
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Post by surefire on Sept 8, 2008 16:22:24 GMT -5
At this rate, the super power country is a lost cause, not to mention the laughing stock of the world (not that neocons care), but we simply can't afford to lose the status. How will we afford more of the same? I ALWAYS GET A GREAT CHUCKLE OUT OF THIS. Which countries are you referring to that are "laughing at us"..I've been around the world, a few times. I have 6-7 FULL Passports from EVERYWHERE. All we find city after city and country after country is love and respect. Where is this laughing? Sure a "FEW" random d*ckheads in a country here or there, mainly Canadians and Brits. Will begin to cluck, until they actually TALK to us...and then..we all share a pint. This the world is laughing BS is just that. A handful of elitist Euros constitutes "the world", or at least to the extreme left. |
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Post by The New Guy on Sept 8, 2008 20:17:56 GMT -5
as i've said time and time again, quotes like these typically come from those individuals who have never been out of their own local bubble much less traveled abroad.
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Post by Mink on Sept 8, 2008 20:22:12 GMT -5
Bloverk:
"You forgot, or purposely omitted, the part where she took money from those coffers and paid it out to the people of Alaska to offset their increase in expenses related to energy consumption. Why is that?"
I didn't omit it, I posted the link. What she paid to the people didn't compare to the lost jobs from outsourcing the natural gas and puttting many out of work.
I'm not saying everything she does is unacceptable, but there is enough to make her questionable, is all.
For instance the governor's plane/jet (whatever) that she put on
Ebay. She doesn't follow through to complete what really happened. It didn't sell for one thing, and she wound up selling to someone she knew at a $600,000 loss to the state. It's things like this that make me question mccain's judgement.
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Post by Len on Sept 8, 2008 21:08:41 GMT -5
w years ago?) Interesting take here. What I saw and heard from Thompson is, he appeared to be drunk. He slurred and hiccuped throughout his heartfelt story of a POW. Guiliani came across as insane. I do agree, Lieberman is boring. All in all, I wish they could have measured the decibel levels. It was enough to keep the dead, dead. As for mccain, I do respect the man for his service, however, now he is the only hope for the Republicans and even then, they needed a crutch in palin, who is turning out to be a nutjob and a liar. After the current admin., they will be lucky if they come close to keeping office. The country simply can't afford it~ I think Thompson's speech is always that of a sot, even on TV. But for an old guy, he got the troops up and screaming! And Guiliani looks and is probably insane; I mean, most in NY have to be, so their leader is a certifiable loon, but he too delivered, and well. Our TV's are different, as the sound level was OK, just the folks there were full of enthusiasm and did not display the confusion I saw at the DNC. After the 720th Teacher's Union, Brick Layer's Union, etc gave their speeches, the crowd didn't know which way to face. Sara IS a nutjob! That is what we call anyone that fires a state employee, but up there they call it "well done". And as for lying......I doubt that's been proven, but said frequently and loudly, the two ingredients needed for The Big Lie, I am sure it will be as factual as her daughter giving birth to Trig and then being pregnant again 15 days later. |
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 8, 2008 21:22:37 GMT -5
Mink, I'm not sure which thread about Palin you posted the leftist lie about her trying to ban books. Check it out here. www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.aspRemember that snopes is a litttle left leaning. Not much, but a bit left of center. I will note that some of the books are classics by Mark Twain, and those tend to be on the leftists lists of books to burn because they use the dreaded "N-word" |
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