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Post by saunterelle on May 29, 2008 18:03:30 GMT -5
"We noticed, and it has cost us as more then a trillion dollars in money, services, hospitals, education, illegal activities and violence. Not to mention about 3,000 lives on September 11, 2001, as some of the hijackers were in this country illegally. Meaning, your policy towards illegal immigration is directly responsible not only for those deaths, but also this war and every life lost in it."
Keep stretching like that and you'll hurt your neck!!
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Post by harpman1 on May 29, 2008 18:21:42 GMT -5
No stretch there, he is correct.
This is a world governed by the aggressive use of force.
Be it to collect taxes or bring the stench of war to the doorstep of a middle-eastern hellhole.
Illegal Immigration has been a less violent version of the same thing; folks forcing their way into our country through subterfuge & lies.
There will be no successful negotiations to tame the sewer of Arab & Muslim aggression. It will be done at the muzzle end of a weapon.
This war will end either when we surrender or they do. Nothing else will do.
Your choice.
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Post by bolverk on May 29, 2008 18:34:05 GMT -5
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Post by bolverk on May 29, 2008 18:37:53 GMT -5
"We noticed, and it has cost us as more then a trillion dollars in money, services, hospitals, education, illegal activities and violence. Not to mention about 3,000 lives on September 11, 2001, as some of the hijackers were in this country illegally. Meaning, your policy towards illegal immigration is directly responsible not only for those deaths, but also this war and every life lost in it." Keep stretching like that and you'll hurt your neck!! So, you are not familiar with the concept of cause and effect? If you party had been tough on illegal immigration, 9/11 would not have happened. If 9/11 had not happened, we would not be in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is not a stretch at all, it is well known that several of the hijackers overstayed their student visas, a violation of immigration laws. But, liberals like you always parrot the "do not cooperate with I.C.E. (I.N.S.)" chant. Many of your liberal cities in fact promote this idea. And that is exactly how these individuals were able to achieve their goal, by exploiting liberal immigration policies and attitudes on immigration. Care to attempt to derail that train of thought? With logic that is. |
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Post by The New Guy on May 29, 2008 18:46:22 GMT -5
speaking of enemies....the obvious ones are easy to dispatch. the others, not so easy.
""A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."
--Marcus Tullius Cicero
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Post by bolverk on May 29, 2008 18:50:22 GMT -5
While you guys are joking around Obama is overtaking McCain in the polls. The Neocon's house is crumbling. Actually, this is either a lie by you, or you do not know how to read polls very well. The four polls I am looking at have them neck to neck. |
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Post by bolverk on May 29, 2008 18:51:47 GMT -5
speaking of enemies....the obvious ones are easy to dispatch. the others, not so easy. "" A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." --Marcus Tullius Cicero Excellent post. And right on the mark. |
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Post by The New Guy on May 29, 2008 18:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by harpman1 on May 29, 2008 19:09:37 GMT -5
The dirty little secret of American Presidential elections is this: the one demographic that is a must-have for success is white men.
Are they ready to elect an angry black man?
Obama is whistling past the graveyard.
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Post by Mink on May 30, 2008 0:46:09 GMT -5
Obama is half-White  |
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Post by harpman1 on May 30, 2008 12:58:23 GMT -5
But the half he thinks with is all black & all pissed.
And the Mrs....sheesh!
She's more angry, abused & entitled than he is.
Michelle-ma-belle was admitted to Princeton based on the color of her skin, not the content of her transcripts.
She will forever feel "less than" 'cuz she knows deep down she will always be doubted for her abilities.
The crippling effects of affirmative action are the gift that keeps on giving.
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Post by saunterelle on May 30, 2008 13:24:18 GMT -5
What a sick and pathetic post harpman. Obama is well qualified to lead this nation, no matter if he's black, white, brown, yellow, etc. Why would you bring the guy's race into it. You just make yourself look ignorant.
Obama is not an "angry black man." He is giving this country something to hope for after 8 years of a downward spiral.
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