|
|
Post by The New Guy on Feb 17, 2009 17:24:20 GMT -5
if one of his kids turns out to be gay that still won't change the fact taht said kid will likely have a shorter life expectancy.
|
|
|
|
Post by saunterelle on Feb 17, 2009 17:26:02 GMT -5
saunterelle, you are arguing from a position of weakness. Your only response so far is to cast aspersions on the people either making or presenting the reports. This, more then anything else, proves the desperation in your arguments. Aspersion: a false or misleading charge meant to harm someone's reputationI am absolutely not "casting aspersions." Would you like to try and dispute any of the charges that I, or the article I linked to, made against your source? Each and every one is correct. You are the weak one for being so naive. |
|
|
|
Post by saunterelle on Feb 17, 2009 17:27:19 GMT -5
if one of his kids turns out to be gay that still won't change the fact taht said kid will likely have a shorter life expectancy. Not if moondog's kid chooses to live in a healthy, monogamous, gay relationship. Hopefully by that time he will be allowed to get married. |
|
|
|
Post by saunterelle on Feb 17, 2009 17:34:04 GMT -5
What this argument comes down to is that some of us have a gripe with promiscuous behavior. It could be homosexual or heterosexual, it will shorten your life span. Are gay people more promiscuous? Perhaps. But that is each individual's lifestyle choice. Maybe this is because their natural inclinations were repressed for so long and now they can exercise them more freely. Whatever the case, it is not being homosexual that shortens their lifespan, it is their promiscuity.
|
|
|
|
Post by moondog on Feb 17, 2009 17:48:34 GMT -5
Ok, now you have done it. How is being Black a life style? It's not, you can not compare the two. So I will take this moment to say that you are an unabashed moron in even making the that unrelated and thoroughly discredited comparison. You really don't get it? You could make the same case you are trying to make against homosexuality by saying "being black shortens your life span." Of course, it would be false, but you would argue it by pointing to statistics that show black men/women dying at a much younger age than their white counterparts. Of course it is not because they are black, it is because of the lifestyle that some choose to engage in. Like being black, homosexuality is not a "lifestyle choice." You either are or you aren't. Teaching your children to share your bigoted viewpoints may backfire one day if you find out that one of them is gay. My view points are not bigoted, they are based in scientific research. So, if you make that false assertion one more time I will challenge you to meet me at our studio for a brawl. Then we will see just how big of pussy you really are. |
|
|
|
Post by moondog on Feb 17, 2009 17:51:14 GMT -5
if one of his kids turns out to be gay that still won't change the fact taht said kid will likely have a shorter life expectancy. That is absolutely correct. It would not change the love I have for my children. But I would still warn them about the potential consequences of their choices. Unlike saunterelle, I would not lie to my children just to promote a life style. Just because he fails to acknowledge the truth about homosexuality does not mean I will. |
|
|
|
Post by moondog on Feb 17, 2009 17:52:35 GMT -5
if one of his kids turns out to be gay that still won't change the fact taht said kid will likely have a shorter life expectancy. Not if moondog's kid chooses to live in a healthy, monogamous, gay relationship. Hopefully by that time he will be allowed to get married. Look at all of the qualifiers he had to add. Healthy and monogamous. Notice he did not say gay life style or normal gay relationship. He can't, because there is no such thing. |
|
|
|
Post by saunterelle on Feb 17, 2009 17:55:31 GMT -5
My problem is that you're using discredited doctors for your "scientific research" and you refuse to admit that homosexuality is not inextricably linked to promiscuous behavior.
It would be wise to warn your kids against the dangers of promiscuous behavior whether they are gay or not, as the risk is similar.
BTW, fighting won't win you the debate.
|
|
|
|
Post by moondog on Feb 17, 2009 17:56:38 GMT -5
What this argument comes down to is that some of us have a gripe with promiscuous behavior. It could be homosexual or heterosexual, it will shorten your life span. Are gay people more promiscuous? Perhaps. But that is each individual's lifestyle choice. Maybe this is because their natural inclinations were repressed for so long and now they can exercise them more freely. Whatever the case, it is not being homosexual that shortens their lifespan, it is their promiscuity. Oh yeah, the way of the current gay culture does not fit in with anything you describe. And do not try to fool me either. I have seen they gay culture up close and personal. When you have homosexual friends you attend homosexual parties and the like. Guess what, you are clueless about the homosexual life style and culture. Which is why you must always use qualifiers when you speak about their relationships. What you describe is not what their culture promotes or aspires to, all they want is acceptance. In me, they have that. But I will not lie just to promote their life style, nor will I use qualifiers, which are another form of lie, and explains why you use them so freely. |
|
|
|
Post by saunterelle on Feb 17, 2009 17:57:44 GMT -5
Nor could I say there is such thing as a black life style, etc. People make their lifestyle decisions independent of whether they're gay, straight, black, Chinese, etc.
|
|
|
|
Post by moondog on Feb 17, 2009 18:13:45 GMT -5
My problem is that you're using discredited doctors for your "scientific research" and you refuse to admit that homosexuality is not inextricably linked to promiscuous behavior. It would be wise to warn your kids against the dangers of promiscuous behavior whether they are gay or not, as the risk is similar. BTW, fighting won't win you the debate. You have that backwards. You refuse to admit that the very homosexual culture revolves around promiscuity. Can that change? Who knows, it hasn't changed in more then 30 years, in a State where open homosexuality is accepted. Why should I believe it will change in the future? And I know fighting will not end or win the debate. But it will prevent you from ever insulting me again. Unlike you and religious people, I have tolerance and acceptance of homosexuals, so I am not a bigot. I just understand the self-destructive nature of their hedonistic choice by selecting the homosexual culture. You refuse to admit the culture even exists in the form it does. You paint a rosy 1950's life style in a homosexual household with a loving, caring monogamous relationship. The problem with that is no one here believes in fantasies like that. The reality does not fit your picture, so you have no debate to win. That is why you qualify everything with the unrealistic prequalifiers you use, because reality does not fit your description. Perhaps some day it will, but not in our lifetime, and probably not the lifetime of my children either. So, get over yourself and understand that the real world does not conform your very imaginative descriptions of a homosexual relationship. |
|
|
|
Post by moondog on Feb 17, 2009 18:16:46 GMT -5
Nor could I say there is such thing as a black life style, etc. People make their lifestyle decisions independent of whether they're gay, straight, black, Chinese, etc. Being gay is not the life style you simpleton. The party life and indiscriminate sex are the life style for the vast majority of homosexuals. Perhaps you should read more on your own and stop relying on political pamphlets from the No on 8 crowd. |
|
